No, see, you don't understand. The latest Clinton math plan means the supers will flock to Hillary because Obama can't win "hard working Americans-- white Americans".  (Psst... he's black.)

Good job.

Indeed, even if MI were seated as is (with Obama getting the 36 delegates he won at the state convention) it would still be nearly impossible for her to win.  I'd like to see the Obama campaign just agree to seat them both as is and take this rationale for staying in away from her.

Offer her the VP, but she has to accept by 4pm tomorrow.

WV votes, she wins and turns him down.

Obama can then claim the high ground and the vote in WV which is mostly being ignored becomes the second story.

He will be seen as the uniter, and her for what she is.

1. without Florida and Michigan convention is illegitimate
   
2. supers cannot cast their vote before convention, so counting them before august is waste of time and meaningless. They are free to change their mind at will.

Also Clinton Campaign chair Terry M is now sayingg that they will accept seating of FL with half-delegate penalty (i.e. each pledged delegate counts as 1/2 and not full vote).  This is likely because they expect to a large net gain on FL supers, but underscores that the Clinton camp does not expect any miracles to be delivered by the Rules and Bylaws committee.  

There is no HRC path to the nomination that includes the rational counting of delegates.  Only a complete BO collapse due to new information being found about his past (likely HRC's fondest hope) or his negatives being driven higher and higher by end of campaign, leading to HRC surpassing him by large double digit margin in national match-up with McCain.  As Roger Simon noted, former is a desperate wish and latter is a fond hope.  

The SD's can change their vote up until the convention.

so it depends if Hillary is in it to win or if she wants to concede.

She, like Ted Kennedy did, can take it to the convention floor in August and fight. Kennedy did this in '80 against an incumbent Pres Carter and only had 800 delegates!!!

If things happen between now and August that make him an ineffective candidate, then this could happen.

There is a divide in the Democratic party.  Regardless, of the number that is seen on MSM or backed by Dean.  

Here is my side or how I see this issue.  On every election day night coverage I see only 1 number for the delegate count.  Now, looking at the voting totals for Clinton -it is safe to say that half of the Democratic party disagrees with the 2025 number.  

I'm frustrated that our side or our numbers are not being shown.  I feel that so many people are being fooled into believing that there is only one number because MSM says the number is 2025.

I think the MSM is not doing their job in reporting what half the Democratic party thinks.  They are only reporting one side of the issue.  Look on the right side of the main page of MyDD -that count has been there.  

To drive my point home, many Dems disagree with the party leader (Dean).  To me it was a irrational decision to not count votes.  Obama took his name off of the ballot in MI (Period).

This is not a new issue or a deviation from past arguments being made.  Therefor, it is not a red herring.  But, in all fairness my argument of MSM  convoluting the issue may be.

You just can't stop can you?

Your condencending tones,  snarky implies

Here you go with "the odds of a new magic number"

quit ad-libbing your frame

This is a good diary. Thanks. However, being from Michigan, I believe that any plan that seats the delegates without a do-over election is disenfranchising voters and essentially stealing votes. Not to mention that it weakens the Party by  showing it can't enforce its own rules. I hope that these contested delegates are not seated on principle. Protect the people's right to vote--don't seat these unfairly awareded delegates.

You can do whatever math you want till Aug.  Until the vote in my mind nobody has this won.  The DNC made the rules they can wait.  I am just happy to wait and see what happens by Aug.